The Radically Well Podcast · Season 1, Episode 4

Strength Training for Women Over 40: Olympian Louise Hazel on Fat Loss, Not Weight Loss

Rosie Acosta wrote a book about self-love, then found herself ashamed of wanting to change her body. In this episode she and Tessa Tovar talk with British Olympian Louise Hazel about body image, why cardio alone keeps women stuck, the difference between fat loss and weight loss, and what really changes in perimenopause.

  • Hosts: Rosie Acosta and Tessa Tovar
  • Guest: Louise Hazel, British Olympic heptathlete and CEO of SLAY Athletic Club
  • Published: November 14, 2025
  • Duration: Approximately 48 minutes
  • Series: The Radically Well Podcast
Episode Summary

Self-love and wanting to change are not opposites

Rosie has written about learning to love her body, and then perimenopause changed it again. She describes a quiet shame about wanting to get fitter: if she is the person writing about self-love, what would people think if she started posting body transformation videos? Meeting Louise (Lou) Hazel helped her let go of that. Wanting to be at your best health, Lou says, is your business and nobody else’s.

Lou competed in the heptathlon for Great Britain, won gold for England at the 2010 Commonwealth Games and competed at the London 2012 Olympics. She now runs SLAY, a personal training gym in Hollywood where Rosie trains. Her approach is refreshingly unglamorous: no quick fixes, just the right kind of training, enough protein and habits you could keep for fifteen years.

Key Takeaways

What this episode covers

  • Why Lou asks whether body pressure is coming from society, or from you
  • How what you consume, from magazines to your social feed, shapes how you see yourself
  • Everyone is an athlete: finding the kind of training your body is built for
  • Why cardio is a safety net, and what it takes to actually change your body
  • Fat loss versus weight loss, and why the scale misleads you
  • Why muscle matters more with every decade, and how often to lift
  • How alcohol affects sleep, recovery and metabolism in perimenopause
  • Consistency over perfection: habits you could keep for the next fifteen years
Body Image

Whose pressure is it?

Lou does not dismiss the images society puts in front of women, but she pushes back on the idea that we are helpless against them. Everyone, she says, feels out of place in their body at some point, whether in the teenage years, around pregnancy or through menopause. The useful question is whether the pressure is coming from outside or from inside, because what you absorb is partly up to you.

She tells the story of a friend who brought a pile of glossy magazines to her house, each one making her feel worse. Lou’s advice was to stop buying them, and it worked. Social media, she says, is the same habit at higher speed. If an account leaves you feeling jealous or sick rather than inspired, unfollow it. Lou recently unfollowed around a thousand accounts herself. You are feeding the algorithm, so feed it what helps.

Training

Everyone is an athlete

Lou’s central idea comes from the heptathlon, where she competed against the world’s best shot putters and the world’s best hurdlers, two body types that could not be further apart. Her message to clients: you have a body, so you are an athlete; you just have not found your sport yet. Pilates and yoga are wonderful forms of movement, but if you have a strong, powerful build and want your body to change, you need to train to that strength.

Cardio, in her view, is the safety net. It is good for your heart and lungs and it keeps you where you are, but it is easy and uncomplicated, which is why women stay on it. To lose fat, build muscle or get stronger, the body needs a reason to adapt: more load, more duration or more complexity. She suggests taking the next small step out of your comfort zone, whether that is a class or asking someone who lifts how they got started.

Fat Loss

Fat loss, not weight loss

Lou would like to banish the phrase weight loss. A lower number on the scale could be water, muscle or fat, and losing muscle is the opposite of what most women want, especially with age. Muscle, she says, helps prevent falls, supports metabolism and is central to staying healthy for longer. The better goal is often to weigh about the same while carrying less fat and more muscle.

She is blunt about crash approaches. One client lost ten pounds on a five-day juice cleanse and regained more than that within two weeks. Fat loss, unlike weight loss, means fueling your body: Lou recommends about one gram of protein per pound of body weight daily, and insists carbohydrates are not “naughty”. It is all about dosage, including the occasional pastry.

Perimenopause

What changes in perimenopause, and what to do about it

Many women believe midlife weight gain is inevitable and out of their hands. Lou’s first step is awareness: know the symptoms, from mood swings and hot flashes to vaginal dryness and low libido, and connect early with a doctor who specializes in hormones. She describes fat distribution shifting toward the abdomen in perimenopause, and resistance training as the counterweight. Every woman, she says, should be lifting heavy two to three times a week to preserve lean muscle.

Then the unpopular part: alcohol. Lou says it impairs sleep and recovery and makes it easier to store fat, so the most effective change is to stop drinking, or at least set clear limits. For people who say they have tried everything, she asks three questions: have you tried weight training, enough daily protein and giving up alcohol?

This conversation is educational and is not medical or nutritional advice. Talk with a qualified clinician before major changes to your training, diet or alcohol use, especially in perimenopause or with a health condition.

Episode Chapters

Timestamps

Times refer to the YouTube video.

00:00Introduction: body image, self-love and meeting Lou
04:36Tessa on finding weightlifting young
06:08Rosie on the shame of wanting to change her body
09:09Louise Hazel: from Olympic heptathlete to gym owner
10:39Is the pressure coming from society, or from you?
13:42Consuming trash makes you feel like trash
15:12“I’ve tried everything”: the habits that hold us back
16:44Everyone is an athlete: finding your sport
21:17The gym teacher who said Rosie was not a runner
22:48Why cardio is a safety net
27:27Feeling like an athlete for the first time
28:58Talent, mindset and fifteen years of consistency
31:59Fat loss vs. weight loss
38:04Perimenopause, muscle and metabolism
42:37Alcohol, sleep and recovery
44:08Sugar, dosage and real change
47:09Social media and body image
Topics Discussed

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Frequently Asked Questions

Questions explored in this episode

What is the difference between fat loss and weight loss?

Weight loss is just a lower number on the scale, which could be water, muscle or fat. Fat loss means reducing body fat while keeping lean muscle. Louise Hazel argues fat loss is the better goal, and that it requires fueling your body with enough protein rather than simply cutting calories.

Why is muscle so important for women in midlife?

According to Lou, muscle supports your metabolism, helps prevent falls and is central to staying healthy as you age. Losing it, which crash diets can cause, works against the body composition most women actually want.

How often should women over 40 lift weights?

Lou recommends resistance training with heavy weights two to three times a week, especially in perimenopause, to preserve lean muscle. If you are new to it, start with the next manageable step, such as a class or guidance from someone experienced.

Is cardio enough to change your body?

Cardio strengthens your heart and lungs and helps you maintain your fitness. To lose fat, build muscle or get stronger, Lou says your body needs a reason to adapt, which means increasing the load, duration or complexity of your training.

Does alcohol make perimenopause weight gain worse?

Lou believes it does: it impairs sleep and recovery, and while the body is processing alcohol, surplus energy is more likely to be stored as fat. Her suggestion is to stop drinking or set firm limits, and to notice how you feel the next day.

How do I stop social media from hurting my body image?

Notice how each account makes you feel. If images leave you jealous or sick rather than inspired, unfollow them. Lou’s point is that you are feeding the algorithm, so you can choose what it shows you.

Work With Rosie Acosta

You are an athlete. You just haven’t found your sport yet.

Rosie offers mindfulness coaching grounded in self-compassion, with practical tools for anxiety, sleep loss and the emotional side of midlife. Coaching is available in English and Spanish.

This episode is a personal conversation and is educational in nature. It does not replace care from a qualified healthcare or mental health professional.